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Monday, May 29, 2006

I can hardly tolerate communist idealists idiots!

At TUDelft, numerous lectures about diverse subjects take place, and are open to anyone who wants. Some of them are in english, so I took a look at them, and this one called my attention:

From the uper introduction, I was expecting an impartial analysis of the remainings of the hazardous influence of neo-marxism around te world in general, and in south america in particular, by Dr Eric B. Ross.

Instead, I found a Marx lover. Dr. Communist took an hour and a half to kiss Marxs' ass. He had read the complete written work of Karl Marx, he was absolutely indoctrinated.


Before I write about the things he said, I want to emphasize that this man is a doctor in anthropology, is the kind of communist that has a good education, hence I assume he belongs to the group of "the intelligent communists". In the following lines, I'll try to describe some of the "arguments" I can still remember that he used to criticize capitalism: (This is not literally what he said, just the ideas I can remember)

* Capitalism is constantly changing without control or direction. Communism attempted to give direction to human kind.

That is because history is the result of the actions of all individual humans, who are free. This attempt to give direction to human kind is nothing but an attempt to take control over the world, not very different of Hitler's dream.

* Around the world, the land production in the underdeveloped world has changed from food to things that can be selled to the developed world, like flowers that must be so perfect that they no longer seem natural. In Uruguay, food production has been switched to production of pig's food to sell to the Netherlands... yes, think about that the next time you eat pig's meet.

The world's food production capability is much greater (I think 4 times the F.R.) than the food requirements, and humans have other necesities rather than just food. What's wrong if there are people willing to pay for perfect flowers? Does this guy want a law against perfect flowers? He is just a control freak who can't let people live their lifes the way they want. About Uruguay's production, nobody forced the uruguaian people to sell pig's food, if they did it's obviously more convenient to sell pig's food, and with the money they get they can get not only food, but also clothing, housing, health, education, etc.

* If you analyse the aid given to the underdeveloped world by the International Monetary Fund and the InterAmerican Development Bank, the money does not go to feed the poor people, but rather to finance businesses.

Give a man a fish and he'll eat that day; teach him to fish (and give him money to buy a cane) and he'll eat every day; more over, he'll sell fish, expand the business, give job to other people, etc. I thought this was pretty obvious for someone with a PhD. I guess I was wrong.

* Revolutions are peacefull in essence: the violence in the russian revolution was caused due to the destruction of Russia by the capitalists nations during the world wars.

Oh, yeah? try to convince the Romanov about that. Oh, wait. All communist revolutions are violent, or do you think you can go to a business owner and tell him "Would you like to give away the work of your whole life to the people, so you won't have anywhere to live in or from?" Do you think he is going to answer "OK, it'll be good for the cause"? The only means to achieve communism are theft and, if necessary, murder.

I wanted so bad to take the word and say something, but I knew that I would probably make a mess. Not being happy with this, latter I got the idea to write him an e-mail. Since it would take me too long to refute all what he said, and since I know that indoctrinated communists don't listen to logic or reason, I tried to appeal to his emotions:

"Dear dr Ross:

I attended the lecture you offered on Speakers this monday about Karl Marx. I must confess, I was expecting another kind of lecure: an impartial analysis about Neo-Marxism in today's world. However, I think I still have some valuable points of view to offer given my condition, which I'll explain init's moment.

I'm very sorry I didn't talk about this on Speakers, but I was afraid that, inthe middle of my passion, I would say something inconvenient. Again, I justwant to offer my point of view.

I must say I disagree with you about almost everything you said on your speech, I think you got wrong conclussions from distortioned facts, for example, when blaming capitalism for the lack of jobs of color people in the US: I think racism is not intrinsic to an economic system (except in the caseof fascism and nazism), it depends on the attitude of each person. I could discuss for hours every detail of your speech, but I think I have a much more important issue to offer.

At some point of your speech (and forgive me if I'm inaccurate) you talked about how someone was talking to Marx about economic facts and figures, and he answered "look at the people, get to the ground". As far as I could learn, you have lived in the United States, studied Marx work, analysed facts through the world that support you critic of the capitalist system and, correct me if I'm wrong, never lived a revolution? maybe never lived in a communist country? So I think I can "flesh things up" a little bit.

I'm a citizen of the Republic of Chile, (as you probably know) my country has suffered, and is still suffering some of the consequences of a communist government that took place between 1970 and 1973 and that tried to drag the country to a communist constitution through a revolution. I must say, it was not a "utopia", and it was not peaceful. The families of both my father and my mother lost almost everything they had, the result of the work of not just decades but generations, from one day to another, and they were lucky they didn't got murdered in the process. To make my point clear, I will now describe four stages in the chilean economic system that took place from the 60's to the present time:

1.- The 60's: In this period, Chile was mainly an agricultural country, with asocial structure that was very similar to the middle ages: land owners that provided the workers not only work, but also food, housing, sometimes even education for their children, and the promise of assured work for him and his children once they became adults. It was not fair if you ask me: the one who was borned poor died poor, and who was borned rich died rich, but ironically the result was very similar to your utopia: most of the production was food, everyone received what they need, we lived in peace and harmony, and a verystrong feeling that joined us all: we were proud of being chileans.

2.- 1970-1973: In 1970, a communist president was elected with a little bitmore than one third of the votes: Salvador Allende. Communist propaganda and an agricultural reform had took place in the previous years. The communist and socialist partys wanted to change the situation described in the previous paragraph, and started to expropiate the lands of the landowners to split them and give them to the workers. As this process began to take place, many workers began to lose patience and take the situation in their own hands: they took control of farms, made "courts of the people" to judje the landowners, and asked them to leave their home and their lands; if they refused, they offen burned his house with him and his family inside. My parents saw their friends of their childhoods now willing to murder the people who took care of them. The workers didn't know to manage farms, thus, the production of food decreased (a lot); the (communist) government freezed the prices and artificially raised the salaries, so suddenly there was almost no food (or anything, like toilet paper) available, the scarce available food was reserved for the members of the communist party. The government also began to associate with terrorists, Cuba and Russia, and began to bring weapons from this countries to supply the terrorists. There was violence on the streets: armed gangs of red helmets cutting the heads of the peatons, many important authorities were murdered (including the army's commander in chief); the civil population was claiming the army for intervention, the country was divided andon the edge of a civil war. Finally, the congress declared the government inconstitutional, thus general Pinochel proceed with his duty and took control with a state strike.

3.-1974-1989: General Pinochet declared a state of siege, and finished with the communist insurrection. There were violations to the terrorist's human rights. You may found easy to criticize this situation, but from the local point of view there were not many choices: the destiny of 9 millions of chileans were at stakes. He soon realized of the convenience of the capitalist system and in 1980 the chilean people aproved the new proposed constitution. The country took a huge step: the economy grew, the unnemployment was insignificant, the country modernized, there were opportunities: for the first time in Chile people who were borned poor could become rich. At the end of this period, Pinochet offered the chilean people to give away his power and return to democracy, and the people accepted. Pinochet received a country in ruins and violence, and returned one rebuilt, peaceful and prosperous.

4.-1990-2006: From then until now, we've been living in a relavitely prosperous democracy, but the working class has been continously indoctrinated: the professors of the public schools are all communist, like artist and actors. Therefore communism is still in people's mind, and people have been electing presidents that are more and more from the left, who have done nothing but stop the economic development and the erradication of poverty and unnemployment by increasing taxes and regulations. The wounds of the past prevail, people still does't trust capitalism; unlike the US, if someone succeeds, he is seen with eyes of untrust and hate.

I fear that in the next decade caos will arrise again in Chile. Communist revolutions cannot be peacefull, because they're based on an ideology of hate against anyone who has more than the rest, and nothing good comes out of hate. Communism promotes robbery and murder. It also tries to put absolute control of a country under the hands of one man, enslaving the population."

I soon got an answer that was encoded in a system communists use to distortion the truth and said their terrible ideas with pretty words, so I decided to use my experience in talking with commies to write a translation, of each sentence, in square parenthesis:

"I won't reply to your many points [I can't refute the logic of your main ideas, so I'll concentrate on stupid details]. But, I have visited various "communist" countries; all of them have achieved notable things in the face of great odds, but, as in the case of Cuba, never had the opportunity to realize their full potential [I have seen many communists countries that were succesfull on being communists, but I'll be damned If I had to live like those lost souls, so I've lived in capitalists countries, were I can earn more money and live like a human being]. Chile, however, was not even such a country. It didn't have a revolution. Allende was a socalist --not a communist-- who was freely elected [I don't understand the way democracy works; I think a president is an elected king; I don't know about the executive, legislative and judicial branches; I don't know that the president must respect the law and the constitution, therefore I can't understand why you talk about a revolution if Allende was already president]. But, we know that, even before those elections, the U.S. was already plotting to subvert his government, should he eventually be elected [If anything bad happened, it was fault of the evil capitalist USA]. Chile, at the time, was obviously far more advanced that most of its South American neighbors, but there was great inequality and poverty; and Allende did begin to remedy this [Someone told me this lie, and I'm too stupid/lazy to understand/read your e-mail or learn about the truth about chilean history]. I was nearby, in Peru, when Pinochet bombed La Moneda and Allende was killed and a fascist government was installed [I know better than you because I saw the bombing of La Moneda on television; some guy told me that Pinochet was the bad guy]. And it's shameful that, years later, you should condone that [You are a bad person because you haven't been indoctrinated and don't think like me]. Whatever else you may think, Allende stood for the interests and aspirations of the most deserving majority of Chile's people [I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, because I don't know that Allende was elected with a little more than one third of the votes, even when you told me so]."

This guy is amazing: he is trying to teach me about my own country, about things that he know nothing about. I don't know if I want to laugh or cry, I feel insulted. That's why I wrote him again:

"Well, since you are trying to teach me about my own country, I will take the time to reply to your points.

1.-OK, so some communist countries have achieved a good health system and education for free, but are their populations happy? What if a cuban has a dream, let's say, he wants to be an aviator? The central govermnet will probably say to him "sorry, you'll be a taxi driver" and give him no chance to try to achieve what he wants. These people can hardly be happy because they have no freedom. Otherwise, how do you explain the hordes of cubans who are willing to cross an ocean infested of sharks in a bathtub, while the developed capitalistic countries receive wave after wave of immigrants?

2.-Chile DID have a revolution, my parents lived it, I thought the point was clear, but I'll have to explain it. The socialists and the communists were allied, and they were both willing to achieve power through violence; Allende received weapons from Fidel Castro, and tried to completely destroy private property by expropiating everything that was private. Allende was freely elected... with a 36.2% of the votes. Once he got in power, he began to give weapons to left groups to begin a civil war and destroy the constitution. If you don't think that is a revolution (communist or not), then I don't know what your idea of revolution is.

3.-The US contribution to the chilean crisis is insignificant compared to what was made by Allende and his followers: the former was limited to support atruck drivers strike.

4.-Allende achived nothing when trying to erradicate poverty, rather, he transformed almost everyone into poor people. It was Pinochet who made this possible.

5.-Allende was not killed, he killed himself. The communists said he was murdered by Pinochet to discredit him, but now even them recognize that he committited suicide.

6.-Pinochet was not fascist: he didn't persecute people of a certain race, religion, or even the way they think (proof of that is that during his government you could see in Chile communist magazines), rather, he persecuted people who were trying to begin an armed revolution, who committed terrorist attacks and assasination.

7.-Allende stood for the interests and aspirations... of 36.2% of the chilean people. You clearly never saw the protests of the women with their cooking pots for food to feed their children."

To what he answered:

"Please. I really don't want to get involved in a debate with you."

Translation: [I answered to your first e-mail because I thought I could win a debate against you, now that I realize how much your arguments rule and how much I suck, I'll pretend that I don't want to get involved in a debate with you; your efforts were in vain because we, communists, don't listen to the voice of reason and logic].

If this is how smart are the "smart communists", imagin how stupid are the average ones... . I don't feel very comfortable speaking so bad about a person who doesn't have a public life, but this man was asking for it by talking with no caution about things he knew nothing about. Some communist chilean expelled from Chile tells this kind of "citizens of the developed world" that Allende was the good guy, Pinochet the bad guy, and they think they know it all. They know nothing, they make me sick!

8 Comments:

At 5:46 AM, Blogger Peter Twister , eating a banana on the beach, said...

Si, si los cacho, yo tambien tuve una conversacion politica con uno de ellos: este weon x se me acerco y de la nada me pregunto de que pensamiento politico era yo, asi que te imaginaras como fue.
Esos weones son unos idiotas.

 
At 4:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous , eating a banana on the beach, said...

more loli plz

 
At 3:57 AM, Blogger che-salmóóóóón!!!!!! , eating a banana on the beach, said...

Esos comunistas que rechazaron a nuestro querido amigo J.A. fueron los de mu ex-U?

Hijos de puta!!!

 
At 3:58 AM, Blogger che-salmóóóóón!!!!!! , eating a banana on the beach, said...

*(mi ex-universidad?)

 
At 8:29 PM, Blogger Pedro , eating a banana on the beach, said...

la verdad es que me dio lata leerlo entero, pero por lo que te leí, solo puedo decir una cosa, normalmente no comparto tus argumentos en política (eso al margen de que comparta o no tus ideas politicas, yo me refiero a tus argumentos)

Pedro esta vez te luciste, felicitaciones.

 
At 2:09 PM, Blogger perate , eating a banana on the beach, said...

Jajajajaja! Güena Luciano.
Bueno, yo si me lo leí todo. La verdad quieron ser sincero y a mi parecer ninguno de los dos que argumentaban lo hacían muy bien, aunque obviamente gana Remolino.
Mi parecer es que es medio injusto argumentar con un europeo acerca de Chile, porque normalmente no tienen idea de lo que hablan y uno siempre gana (el juego de la lógica). Por lo demás la única manera de convencerlos es que vengan a Chile y se sienten en un aula, con otro profe barbudo pero de derecha y les explique que pinocho no comía niños y que el mapocho nunca se tiñó de rojo. Aún así les cuesta entenderlo... Es como tratar de convencernos a nos de que el Kmer Rouge era una banda de hueones buena onda. Filo. Twister la lleva.

 
At 12:38 PM, Blogger Peter Twister , eating a banana on the beach, said...

Este gallo no es europeo, es estadounidense, y claramente no necesario elaborar los medios argumentos, aunque si fueron algo extensos. Claramente es facilísimo ganarle en una discusión así a este gallo, lo insólito es que el susodicho intentó ensenarme sobre mi propio país sin ninguna precaución, inmediatamente creyó que lo sabía todo porque "vio el bombardeo de la moneda en la tele".

 
At 11:36 PM, Blogger che-salmóóóóón!!!!!! , eating a banana on the beach, said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Entonces yo se todo sobre el terrorismo, porque vi como chocaban los aviones con las torres gemelas. Y despues durante meses me dediqué, en internet, a buscar fotos que muestren curiosidades sobre el asunto.

Como el "Turist Guy".

 

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